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		<title>Comment on Egypt: A Case Study for Dictators? by M</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2406#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the comment about Gadaffi seeing himself as the only agent of the state.  I think all of these events are revealing a great deal about the varying nature of dictatorial power.  There is not only the question of how the dictator chooses to react, but also the question of how intimately the powers of the state are tied to him, and how this limits his available recourses.   Sure Gadaffi can vow to kill the protesters house by house, but that isn&#039;t feasible without a military that&#039;ll make the trip with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the comment about Gadaffi seeing himself as the only agent of the state.  I think all of these events are revealing a great deal about the varying nature of dictatorial power.  There is not only the question of how the dictator chooses to react, but also the question of how intimately the powers of the state are tied to him, and how this limits his available recourses.   Sure Gadaffi can vow to kill the protesters house by house, but that isn&#8217;t feasible without a military that&#8217;ll make the trip with him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Egypt: A Case Study for Dictators? by Jonathan M. F. Catalán</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2406#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan M. F. Catalán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the lesson is that clear.  I think that the method employed to handle the Egyptian protests were carefully planned and executed.

First, Egypt is a key American ally in the Middle East, and, conspiracy theories aside, we can be sure of the fact that there was heavy American meddling in Egypt during the protests.  I am almost certain that the military&#039;s response and Mubarrak&#039;s careful treatment of the situation were guided by American policy, and I&#039;m certain that the military&#039;s current policies are heavily influenced by the United States (and by the United States&#039;s subsidies, which partially guarantee the Egyptian government&#039;s ability to afford bread, and other foodstuffs, rationing to the Egyptian people).  What is important to remember is that the Mubarrak regime is almost completely intact, except for Mubarrak (who is replaceable) and for minor government officials.

Second, the allegiance of the Egyptian military was in question.  One reason I&#039;ve heard leans on the question of whether or not non-officers and junior officers were more sympathetic towards the protesters than towards their government and senior commanders.  I&#039;m not so sure this thesis is complete, since what it banks on (the same type of income inequality as the general population) is true of every other military in the Middle East, and their reluctance to join in the killing is more suspect (although, evidently, there is some reluctance).  A more likely reason, in my opinion, is that the military was, the entire time, thinking of a way of maintaining power.  They balanced on a thin line between the protesters and Mubarrak, careful not to openly oppose either, and ultimately they came out on top in terms of the power structure.

Libya, on the other hand, is influenced very lightly by the United States.  In fact, it&#039;s probably within the American&#039;s interests to overthrow Gadaffi, or otherwise the Americans can&#039;t really influence events enough to do anything about it.  Gadaffi has more of a free hand to do what he believes is within his interests to do, and I think that the exaggerated violence is a trademark of this fact.  I think Gadaffi would have reacted the same way, with or without Mubarrak&#039;s example, and I think Mubarrak would have reacted this way had Egyptian politics been less intertwined with foreign influence.

I can&#039;t speak for Bahrain, however, which should be a situation similar to Egypt&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the lesson is that clear.  I think that the method employed to handle the Egyptian protests were carefully planned and executed.</p>
<p>First, Egypt is a key American ally in the Middle East, and, conspiracy theories aside, we can be sure of the fact that there was heavy American meddling in Egypt during the protests.  I am almost certain that the military&#8217;s response and Mubarrak&#8217;s careful treatment of the situation were guided by American policy, and I&#8217;m certain that the military&#8217;s current policies are heavily influenced by the United States (and by the United States&#8217;s subsidies, which partially guarantee the Egyptian government&#8217;s ability to afford bread, and other foodstuffs, rationing to the Egyptian people).  What is important to remember is that the Mubarrak regime is almost completely intact, except for Mubarrak (who is replaceable) and for minor government officials.</p>
<p>Second, the allegiance of the Egyptian military was in question.  One reason I&#8217;ve heard leans on the question of whether or not non-officers and junior officers were more sympathetic towards the protesters than towards their government and senior commanders.  I&#8217;m not so sure this thesis is complete, since what it banks on (the same type of income inequality as the general population) is true of every other military in the Middle East, and their reluctance to join in the killing is more suspect (although, evidently, there is some reluctance).  A more likely reason, in my opinion, is that the military was, the entire time, thinking of a way of maintaining power.  They balanced on a thin line between the protesters and Mubarrak, careful not to openly oppose either, and ultimately they came out on top in terms of the power structure.</p>
<p>Libya, on the other hand, is influenced very lightly by the United States.  In fact, it&#8217;s probably within the American&#8217;s interests to overthrow Gadaffi, or otherwise the Americans can&#8217;t really influence events enough to do anything about it.  Gadaffi has more of a free hand to do what he believes is within his interests to do, and I think that the exaggerated violence is a trademark of this fact.  I think Gadaffi would have reacted the same way, with or without Mubarrak&#8217;s example, and I think Mubarrak would have reacted this way had Egyptian politics been less intertwined with foreign influence.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Bahrain, however, which should be a situation similar to Egypt&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Revolutions Work? by Marissa Yturralde-Giannotta</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2215#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Marissa Yturralde-Giannotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 03:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sammy, you should read up on Edmund Burke&#039;s work on Revolutions. That was the basis of this post. Revolutions do not and cannot work, evolutions however can. Evolutions take longer and can get intergenerational, unlike revolutions. It takes a long slow process.. transforming not only the political climate but also the political culture. I think open and free societies who can be left to do this alone can make the transition. Thanks for reading and posting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sammy, you should read up on Edmund Burke&#8217;s work on Revolutions. That was the basis of this post. Revolutions do not and cannot work, evolutions however can. Evolutions take longer and can get intergenerational, unlike revolutions. It takes a long slow process.. transforming not only the political climate but also the political culture. I think open and free societies who can be left to do this alone can make the transition. Thanks for reading and posting!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Revolutions Work? by Sammy</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2215#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wish someone would get a panel of historians, and sociologists to discuss why so many revolutions don&#039;t result in democratic states.  the only ones that seemed to have succeeded was the americal revolution, the french revolution.  i would count the british revolution, but that was less a revolution than a gradual release of the kins powers - the magna carta, then assembly men, etc.

I was personnaly hopeful and elated when the Marcos dictatorship ended - but the country is as bad off now as it ever was.  So with Haiti, Iran, and countries mentioned above.  what does it take?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish someone would get a panel of historians, and sociologists to discuss why so many revolutions don&#8217;t result in democratic states.  the only ones that seemed to have succeeded was the americal revolution, the french revolution.  i would count the british revolution, but that was less a revolution than a gradual release of the kins powers &#8211; the magna carta, then assembly men, etc.</p>
<p>I was personnaly hopeful and elated when the Marcos dictatorship ended &#8211; but the country is as bad off now as it ever was.  So with Haiti, Iran, and countries mentioned above.  what does it take?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#039;t Get Too Excited with Mubarak&#039;s Leave by Tweets that mention Don’t Get Too Excited with Mubarak’s Leave &#124; Interest of the State -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2235#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Don’t Get Too Excited with Mubarak’s Leave &#124; Interest of the State -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Marissa Giannotta, Interest OT State . Interest OT State said: Don’t Get Too Excited with Mubarak’s Leave http://goo.gl/fb/QqhPs #tcot #foreignpolicy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Marissa Giannotta, Interest OT State . Interest OT State said: Don’t Get Too Excited with Mubarak’s Leave <a href="http://goo.gl/fb/QqhPs" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/fb/QqhPs</a> #tcot #foreignpolicy [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on North and South Korea becoming friends? by Jill</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2339#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 12:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hhaahha right. friends? please, that&#039;s about as likely as peace in the middle east. these &quot;talks&quot; will be horrible. N.K. will be grand standing and S.K. will have to look like it&#039;s attempting peace to the rest of the world. nothing will be decided</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hhaahha right. friends? please, that&#8217;s about as likely as peace in the middle east. these &#8220;talks&#8221; will be horrible. N.K. will be grand standing and S.K. will have to look like it&#8217;s attempting peace to the rest of the world. nothing will be decided</p>
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		<title>Comment on Independence for South Sudan! by Tweets that mention Independence for South Sudan! &#124; Interest of the State -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2342#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Independence for South Sudan! &#124; Interest of the State -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 08:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Marissa Giannotta, Interest OT State . Interest OT State said: Independence for South Sudan! http://goo.gl/fb/qHK7H #tcot #foreignpolicy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Marissa Giannotta, Interest OT State . Interest OT State said: Independence for South Sudan! <a href="http://goo.gl/fb/qHK7H" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/fb/qHK7H</a> #tcot #foreignpolicy [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on North and South Korea becoming friends? by Tweets that mention North and South Korea becoming friends? &#124; Interest of the State -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2339#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention North and South Korea becoming friends? &#124; Interest of the State -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 08:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Marissa Giannotta, Interest OT State . Interest OT State said: North and South Korea becoming friends? http://goo.gl/fb/AWDxd #tcot #foreignpolicy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Marissa Giannotta, Interest OT State . Interest OT State said: North and South Korea becoming friends? <a href="http://goo.gl/fb/AWDxd" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/fb/AWDxd</a> #tcot #foreignpolicy [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unity in Egypt by Melissa Cameron</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2248#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 07:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Matt.  Revolution, legitimacy and the lack thereof under Statism have been primary foci lately, and the revolutions in the Middle East are highlighting the need for revolutions to be judged in light of legitimacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Matt.  Revolution, legitimacy and the lack thereof under Statism have been primary foci lately, and the revolutions in the Middle East are highlighting the need for revolutions to be judged in light of legitimacy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Political Smackdown: iPhone vs. Android by Tweets that mention Political Smackdown: iPhone vs. Android &#124; Interest of the State -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://interestofthestate.com/?p=2330#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Political Smackdown: iPhone vs. Android &#124; Interest of the State -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 07:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Marissa Giannotta, Interest OT State . Interest OT State said: Political Smackdown: iPhone vs. Android http://goo.gl/fb/2XyN1 #tcot #foreignpolicy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Marissa Giannotta, Interest OT State . Interest OT State said: Political Smackdown: iPhone vs. Android <a href="http://goo.gl/fb/2XyN1" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/fb/2XyN1</a> #tcot #foreignpolicy [...]</p>
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